The Unrefined Podcast is hosted by Brandon Spain and Lindsy Waters. The motto is "Living an authentic supernatural life in a turbulent world." I can go along with that. Brandon (and his wife who produces it) and Lindsy are super nice folks, embarking on a similar journey as me as we try to figure out this crazy supernatural world. But they also let me talk about slightly more normal things too! Which is vital. Great show and I'm proud to call them friends and brothers!

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